Samath N8 808 owner, 9 hours agoExactly. But I genuinely believe LG and Sony are not properly trying to give their best. LG... moreI am inline with your views. LG V40, during the Mar, 2020 sale in Flipkart was available for INR 21,500. I never saw the V40 after that. However V40 has a big issue which is battery life. So instead in the same sale I got the LG V30+ for INR 11,700.
V30 & V40 had the same battery capacity but V30 had much better battery endurance. It was not because V40 is worse than V30 but because LG wanted to improve on display quality and tried to come one step closer to what Samsung offered. In doing so it sacrificed battery life and the hardware display driver IC of V40's OLED panel had un-usual power draw even on standby. A fact that to some extend was put forward by AnandTech. LG since had rectified this issue for their next gen of flagships like G8, V50 & V50S/G8X.
With all this in mind and with time, multiple charge discharge cycles, battery capacity will degrade. So what is good for a day now may not be so 2 years later. Hence I opted for V30+ with a eye for G8X. Now I have a G8X too. This maybe my last LG for some time as the famous QuadDAC is now gone under new management and their focus have shifted from audio to design.
YUKI93, 3 hours agoAgree with your point. Because of that Quad DAC feature, I waved goodbye to wireless Bluetooth... moreNerds and overclock junkies need to understand human ears are analogue, hence for analogue audio reproduction wired audio provides best possible audio fidelity. No Bluetooth audio at zillion bit rate can make up for it. Period.
This the reason why the best and most expensive headphones in the world are wired ones. LG flagships in general have an excellent ESS ES9218P (QuadDAC) implementation with a great inbuilt DAC and 2 Vrms amplifier. When QuadDAC gets paired with a good wired headphone via audio jack, it can take you to a level of audio nirvana which just isn't possible with Bluetooth audio.
IpsDisplay, 23 hours agoThis is possibly the most outdated/ out of touch comment I've seen recently Generic? ... moreLG are definitely innovative. Unfortunately they are starved of cash. LG Mobiles have only survived till now as the mother (LG Electronics) is taking care of its sick child. If not it would have perished like HTC long before.
Their elite R&D team in Korea under new management is fully focused on experimental & eye catching ideas as this is what is required to turn consumer heads. They now have to do something different as for the previous 3 years they were churning out solid flagships with a very industrial look (boring for most, but not for me) but had to luck.
Forhad1000, 21 hours agoLG's phones are always HIGH priced -_- If you can wait, you can get it for an absolute steal. LG phones, especially the flagship, always tend to depreciate in a short time. I myself only pay for my V50 with DualScreen case for $400, which is about 2.5x or 3x less than its original price when it was launched in February 2019. I could have spent that same money for an Apple iPhone SE (2020) or OnePlus Nord or even save $50 and get a Google Pixel 4a, but the LG's feature-per-value appeal is second to none and I definitely don't regret that.
RishiGuru, 3 hours agoI do love LG smartphones. But only the LG flagships that gets created by the same R&D team... moreAgree with your point. Because of that Quad DAC feature, I waved goodbye to wireless Bluetooth audio and didn't miss them at all. I don't care about styling as all I care about is day-to-day usability and the LG with its DualScreen case definitely delivers it big time.
YUKI93, 23 hours agoI do. I even sold off my Samsung Galaxy Fold that I got for only a few months old in favour of... moreI do love LG smartphones. But only the LG flagships that gets created by the same R&D team of their V & G series phones. I am not interested about the rest of their phones as they have never appealed to me. The other reason of loving LG as a music lover is their famous implementation of QuadDAC, sticking to audio jack & memory expansion capability. In other words LG flagships are boring and unique in some aspects and I like that.
MLAVRA, 17 hours agoIt is about pricing, inovation, quality assurance and marketing. They used to be most innovati... moreNot doing well for 22nd straight quarter has hurt LG's marketing budget big time. Marketing is the most important tool in today's business. Tech savvy people like us may easily identify the best phone for a certain price-point. But for the rest 90% of world population the company image and marketing makes final decision choices. This is where Samsung & Apple are the kings.
LG targets US over Europe as they do not have the marketing budget, due to poor financial results for years. In US, carriers do majority of the marketing and LG does not have to invest any. In Asia, like India LG plays in volume some time selling their flagship phones at dirt cheap prices.
I have a pair of spanking new LG V30+'s for $156 each. Recently I bought a brand new LG G8X with Dual Screen Case slapped for just $245. These are insane low prices such
flagship grade phones. LG India later confirmed they did a business of around $50 million in first 12 hours of the sale and sold some 150 hundred thousand units in that 12 hours time frame only. So they are playing in bulk here with zero marketing.
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..It's high time y'all came back in East African market..You will do better..
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I know how lg phones work. I cannot afford pricey phones. But take a look at what you write. Unfortunately iPhone and Samsung do have problems as well. And lg is just fine underwater. Don't become advocates at what you don't get. Let people have a share of the day when you've got lg phones running around to keep. Don't bury my phone. I need it. Life's good and that's a fact.
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There is a definite gap in the market for a compact phone with mid range specs but great battery life ,it seems every manufacturer is making these 6.5 inch + behemoths that are too big and look silly.
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Anonymous, 15 hours agoLG is like Sony, they make fine phones that nobody cares about because most people prefer thei... moreExactly.
But I genuinely believe LG and Sony are not properly trying to give their best. LG recently launched Velvet at around $600 for a Snapdragon 845, probably without their famed QuadDAC. Answer yourself if you'll get it or not.
Same for Sony, they leave features here and there, and even then both LG and Samsung beat them at audio quality, something they're known for.
I had a world of trouble trying to get V40 Thinq, I contacted the company itself, no reply received. Can you believe it? This is how uninterested LG is. LG's branded Indian showrooms, if they even keep one LG phone in stock, change my name! They're hardly concerned.
Ultimately I got a G8x online.
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LG is like Sony, they make fine phones that nobody cares about because most people prefer their Samsungs or iPhones... or they sell their soul to the "cheap for a reason" Xiaomi.
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It is about pricing, inovation, quality assurance and marketing. They used to be most innovative company, remember modular phone, self healing, curved, second display, quad DAC, flagships with replaceable battery etc. Now their phones are like any other phones on the market. Besides Asia they targeted US but not Europe. In the States consumers know for Iphone and Samsung and forgot even Motorola. European market is much more open and diverse. They had disasters with G4 and V10 motherbords and unlike Samsung, were very reluctant to admit problems. And yes, they are overpriced. Be original, different and innovative, attack Europe, keep the quality control in place and adjust the prices.
Can't wait for LG to die because they thought they could charge $700 for a low end phone and actually get sales. Christ on a bike. It's like they put a bunch of 12 year olds in charge of sales management.
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Here in Canada LG has only made a small dent in the smartphone market. For every 1 LG sold there are 3 or 4 Samsungs sold. Support has been at best spotty with LG, be it with Android updates and security updates. And with this outsourcing for LG's budget and midrange phones I don't see any improvement. Won't be surprised if LG leaves the entire North American market.
Reduce the prices, that's what you should do. You are doing exactly what HTC did. Plus, in my country the LG Wing is the same price as iPhone 12 Pro, Huawei Mate 40 Pro and the list keeps on going.
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They already sell low and average hardware at high prices. This is only their next step. Imagine their new ODM Velvet mid-rangers with cheap depth and macro sensors at $750 each one... and without any certification, only the one to sell them. Do they really believe that people will buy them? Not, only a biger margin to still sell some with no sure what purpose today. Wait to watch if people lose their mind and blindly buy their overpriced low outsourced junk? Well, the time will show it, that's for sure.
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I have the solution... Make a Pixel competitor. Design it at a high margin and sell it with plain Android. Since very few companies are doing this well it'll give them a nice little niche that Xiaomi has decided to no longer fill.
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Can we assume lg midranges and low end phones will be made in China ??
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LivinProof, 23 hours agoWell LG need to sell Mid-rangers with mid-ranger chipsets and battery life. Decent GPU, decent... moreBecause chinese brands use mostly local suppliers.
In the end if a chinese and non-chinese make a,phone with same specs, the one from China brand will be much cheaper to make.
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